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Haklisiniz !  Bence agdali yazilarin yazarlari bilgi SIGLIKLARINI, anlamak için
yirmi
kere okumak zorunda kaldiginiz yazilarin içinde saklamaga çalisiyorlar .
ergun çagatay

P.S. Bertrand Russell veya Albert Camus en girift düsüncelerini dahi olaganüstü
düz ve basit cümlelerle anlatmayi basaran iki örnektir... tabii daha baskalari da
var .






"emine o.incirlioglu" wrote:

> Zaman zaman, elime gectikce ben de Lingua Franca okurdum, ve ince, igneleyici
> yazilari hosuma da giderdi. Hic abone olmamistim, ve 2001'de aniden yayindan
> kaldirildigini da duymamistim. Uzuldum. Asagidaki yaziyi okurken iki noktanin
> ustunde durmak istedim.
>
> Birincisi, su anda TKAG Bulteninin 8. sayisiyla ugrasiyorm. Bu, benim
> editorlugunu yaptigim son sayi olacak. Bundan sonra kim cikartir bilmem.
> Karamsar olmak istemiyorum (ya da bu konudaki karamsarligimi gostermek
> istemiyorum) ama bu 8. sayi ile Bulten'in yayin hayati da sona erecek gibi
> geliyor. Lingua Franca'nin (bile) onbir yil sonra "artik yeter" diye yayindan
> kaldirildigini okuyunca, biz yine iki yil iyi dayandik diye dusundum.
>
> Ikincisi, dil konusunda.
> "Star includes an angry letter by Judith Butler, a UC Berkeley professor of
> rhetoric, who had been awarded first prize in a "worst writing " contest. Butler
> accuses Lingua Franca of cheap and tawdry journalism. Jim Miller, a New School
> dean, explores the issues in an essay that is almost too magnanimous, "Is Bad
> Writing Necessary?" The question can be answered simply: No. But this is not to
> say good writing must be simple-minded."
>
> Judith Butler'la hicbir alip veremedigim yok. Ama Turkce "bilimsel" yayinlari
> dusunmeme araci oldu bu bolum. Sanki anlasilmasin diye yazilmis; sanki, ne kadar
> anlasilmaz olursa o kadar bilimsel olur anlayisiyla, gunluk dilden ozenle
> uzaklastirilip, agdali ve esrarengiz havalara burundurulmus yazilar sizin de
> sinirinize dokunmuyor mu? Lutfen dokunsun!
>
> Emine Incirlioglu
>
> "Paksoy, Hb" wrote:
>
> > latimes.com
> > September 1, 2002
> >
> > HOW ONE GADFLY PUBLICATION PROVED THAT SIZE REALLY DOESN'T MATTER Small Is
> > Beautiful
>
> > QUICK STUDIES: The Best of Lingua Franca, Edited by Alexander Star, Farrar,
>
> > Straus & Giroux: 514 pp., $18 paper
> >
> >
> > By RUSSELL JACOBY, Russell Jacoby is the author of "The End of Utopia" and
> > "The Last Intellectuals," among other books. He teaches in the history
> > department at UCLA.
> >
> > When Lingua Franca, a plucky review of academic life, abruptly ceased
> > publication in 2001, its readers were left stranded, but who else noticed?
> > Los Angeles may have a book festival and New York may be book country, but
> > few citizens read periodicals devoted to cultural and intellectual matters.
> > Americans, who routinely fork over 30 bucks for a month of television, just
> > as routinely resist paying even a part of that for a year's subscription to
> > a serious magazine. The numbers reflect the dollars. Television programs get
> > bumped if they draw only millions of viewers. But cultural magazines partake
> > of another world.
> >
> > A basic category in the National Magazine Awards is for periodicals with
> > circulation "under 200,000." The term "under" should be emphasized. Many
> > serious periodicals have circulations under 25,000. I used to write for a
> > magazine whose circulation was 1,200. We joked that an American city of
> > 200,000 people might have one subscriber; Chicago's readers could gather for
> > a meal.
> >
> > Yet small (if not beautiful) may be important. Small magazines play big
> > roles. Their impact cannot be measured in numbers. No one would calculate
> > the significance of the 1930s Partisan Review by its circulation figures;
> > the same could be said of earlier journals like the Lively Arts or the
> > Masses. Such magazines are passed around; they are commented upon. They
> > serve as places for authors to try out ideas and for readers to find new
> > writers. Invisible on the surface, the small journals are the intellectual
> > arteries of the body politic.
> >
> > Enter Lingua Franca. In 1990 a former professor of French literature at
> > Yale, Jeffrey Kittay, had the inspired idea to put out a "review of academic
> > life." The academic establishment supports, of course, many professional
> > magazines and one plump weekly newspaper, the Chronicle of Higher Education,
> > directed mainly to administrators. Kittay realized these periodicals omitted
> > the snap and crackle of academic life: the gossip, the lawsuits, the
> > academic stars and their critics, the trends and counter-trends. He sought
> > to publish a smart and brash journal that would capture the campus sizzle.
> >
> > In "Quick Studies," Alexander Star, the editor of Lingua Franca for six of
> > its 11 years, has assembled a representative sampling for the millions of
> > Americans who never subscribed or saw a copy, since the journal never broke
> > the 15,000 circulation barrier. He notes in his introduction that the time
> > was ripe for an irreverent academic journal. Campuses were riven by
> > arguments about the "cultural wars," political correctness, speech codes,
> > multiculturalism, affirmative action, postmodernism and the like.
> >
> > Lingua Franca came out fighting with well-written forays that frequently
> > stepped on toes or, at least, raised eyebrows, most famously with the
> > brilliant hoax by Alan Sokal, a New York University physicist. When the
> > opaque pretentiousness of humanist academics irritated the straight-shooting
> > Sokal, he submitted to a cutting-edge cultural studies journal an article of
> > patent nonsense, dense but filled with fashionable references and phrases.
> > Social Text, and its theoretical bigwigs, took the bait and published the
> > piece--titled "Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative
> > Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity"--only to be stunned by the next issue of
> > Lingua Franca, in which Sokal confessed he had hoodwinked the editors.
> >
> > The Sokal brouhaha brought to the fore disputes about recent turns in
> > humanist disciplines, mainly the rise of postmodernism and cultural studies,
> > to which Star devotes the first section of this collection. He includes the
> > pathetic response by the editors of Social Text, as well as another
> > confession, of an "ex-literary critic" who admits that the arid prose and
> > rote politics served up by literary theorists (including himself) killed his
> > love of literature.
> >
> > Several of the pieces review the jargon of the new academics. To be sure,
> > the phenomenon of English professors who cannot write English is not new,
> > but it has been elevated into a militant program by cultural studies
> > exponents. Its leading figures often appeal to German philosophy to justify
> > their inability to link subject, verb and object; they maintain that the
> > language of humanism must be ungainly to be deep. Lucidity equals
> > superficiality.
> >
> > Star includes an angry letter by Judith Butler, a UC Berkeley professor of
> > rhetoric, who had been awarded first prize in a "worst writing " contest.
> > Butler accuses Lingua Franca of cheap and tawdry journalism. Jim Miller, a
> > New School dean, explores the issues in an essay that is almost too
> > magnanimous, "Is Bad Writing Necessary?" The question can be answered
> > simply: No. But this is not to say good writing must be simple-minded.
> >
> > Lingua Franca ranged far and wide; it took up everything from the troubled
> > relationship between Milan Kundera and his translators to academics as court
> > witnesses and the mysterious murder of a University of Chicago professor.
> > For its readers, every issue offered goodies: news about books and academic
> > life, often featuring a central profile.
> >
> > Star signals a long essay on Jane Gallop as a Lingua Franca model. Gallop, a
> > feminist professor, was accused of sexual harassment by several female
> > students. Like the other piece in this collection on sexual harassment, the
> > article borders on the surreal. Gallop's decision not to write a letter of
> > recommendation caused a student to lodge a complaint of harassment. In the
> > lingo of "sexual harassment," Gallop's refusal demonstrated an intolerable
> > "power differential." The university seriously investigated the charge,
> > although it was finally dismissed.
> >
> > Though Lingua Franca's profiles were frequently entertaining, and sometimes
> > illuminating, Star may have inadvertently played into the hands of critics
> > who called the journal a People magazine for professors. Often numbingly
> > detailed, the profiles succeeded each other even as the ideas receded. One
> > learns, for instance, that Gallop touched the chair of a student with a bare
> > foot but nothing of her intellectual contribution, except that she was a
> > "famous" feminist scholar.
> >
> > Profiles like these begin to feed off the American obsession with fame. We
> > revel in details about the famous, the almost famous or the wannabes, but
> > what are the issues? To be sure, Lingua Franca ran challenging pieces, for
> > instance an essay on the highly regarded literary critic Paul de Man who hid
> > his anti-Semitic past. Yet such pieces became scarcer, and it is perhaps
> > indicative that Star leaves that article out of this collection.
> >
> > What killed Lingua Franca? Several explanations might be offered. For
> > academics, the magazine lacked status. To be published in it brought no
> > credit inasmuch as it was regarded as lowly journalism. To be covered by it
> > was a dubious honor, because you could be not only celebrated but
> > besmirched.
> >
> > The journal was passed along but few professors wanted to be caught with
> > their name on the subscription label. Lingua Franca existed like Playboy
> > among the Boy Scouts, well-circulated and thumbed but rarely purchased.
> > Moreover, probably as a response to Lingua Franca, the Chronicle of Higher
> > Education added more cultural and intellectual coverage, as did the New York
> > Times.
> >
> > Finally, Lingua Franca exposed the open secret about small journals of
> > culture and opinion in contemporary America. For all their repute, with one
> > or two exceptions, they do not make a cent.
> >
> > The New Republics, Harper's, the Nations, and, of course, the Lingua Francas
> > require dedicated souls with deep pockets to pay their bills. After 11
> > years, a backer of Lingua Franca decided enough was enough and pulled out.
> > Nearly 280 million Americans did not notice, but some of us mourned its
> > demise.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Discussion mailing list
> > Discussion@lists.cstgroup.org
> > http://lists.cstgroup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussion
>
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<b>Haklisiniz !&nbsp; Bence agdali yazilarin yazarlari bilgi SIGLIKLARINI,
anlamak i&ccedil;in yirmi</b>
<br><b>kere okumak zorunda kaldiginiz yazilarin i&ccedil;inde saklamaga
&ccedil;alisiyorlar .</b>
<br><b>ergun &ccedil;agatay</b><b></b>
<p><b>P.S. Bertrand Russell veya Albert Camus en girift d&uuml;s&uuml;ncelerini
dahi olagan&uuml;st&uuml;</b>
<br><b>d&uuml;z ve basit c&uuml;mlelerle anlatmayi basaran iki &ouml;rnektir...
tabii daha baskalari da var .</b>
<br><b></b>&nbsp;
<br><b></b>&nbsp;
<br><b></b>&nbsp;
<br><b></b>&nbsp;
<br><b></b>&nbsp;
<p>"emine o.incirlioglu" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Zaman zaman, elime gectikce ben de Lingua Franca
okurdum, ve ince, igneleyici
<br>yazilari hosuma da giderdi. Hic abone olmamistim, ve 2001'de aniden
yayindan
<br>kaldirildigini da duymamistim. Uzuldum. Asagidaki yaziyi okurken iki
noktanin
<br>ustunde durmak istedim.
<p>Birincisi, su anda TKAG Bulteninin 8. sayisiyla ugrasiyorm. Bu, benim
<br>editorlugunu yaptigim son sayi olacak. Bundan sonra kim cikartir bilmem.
<br>Karamsar olmak istemiyorum (ya da bu konudaki karamsarligimi gostermek
<br>istemiyorum) ama bu 8. sayi ile Bulten'in yayin hayati da sona erecek
gibi
<br>geliyor. Lingua Franca'nin (bile) onbir yil sonra "artik yeter" diye
yayindan
<br>kaldirildigini okuyunca, biz yine iki yil iyi dayandik diye dusundum.
<p>Ikincisi, dil konusunda.
<br>"Star includes an angry letter by Judith Butler, a UC Berkeley professor
of
<br>rhetoric, who had been awarded first prize in a "worst writing " contest.
Butler
<br>accuses Lingua Franca of cheap and tawdry journalism. Jim Miller, a
New School
<br>dean, explores the issues in an essay that is almost too magnanimous,
"Is Bad
<br>Writing Necessary?" The question can be answered simply: No. But this
is not to
<br>say good writing must be simple-minded."
<p>Judith Butler'la hicbir alip veremedigim yok. Ama Turkce "bilimsel"
yayinlari
<br>dusunmeme araci oldu bu bolum. Sanki anlasilmasin diye yazilmis; sanki,
ne kadar
<br>anlasilmaz olursa o kadar bilimsel olur anlayisiyla, gunluk dilden
ozenle
<br>uzaklastirilip, agdali ve esrarengiz havalara burundurulmus yazilar
sizin de
<br>sinirinize dokunmuyor mu? Lutfen dokunsun!
<p>Emine Incirlioglu
<p>"Paksoy, Hb" wrote:
<p>> latimes.com
<br>> September 1, 2002
<br>>
<br>> HOW ONE GADFLY PUBLICATION PROVED THAT SIZE REALLY DOESN'T MATTER
Small Is
<br>> Beautiful
<p>> QUICK STUDIES: The Best of Lingua Franca, Edited by Alexander Star,
Farrar,
<p>> Straus &amp; Giroux: 514 pp., $18 paper
<br>>
<br>>
<br>> By RUSSELL JACOBY, Russell Jacoby is the author of "The End of Utopia"
and
<br>> "The Last Intellectuals," among other books. He teaches in the history
<br>> department at UCLA.
<br>>
<br>> When Lingua Franca, a plucky review of academic life, abruptly ceased
<br>> publication in 2001, its readers were left stranded, but who else
noticed?
<br>> Los Angeles may have a book festival and New York may be book country,
but
<br>> few citizens read periodicals devoted to cultural and intellectual
matters.
<br>> Americans, who routinely fork over 30 bucks for a month of television,
just
<br>> as routinely resist paying even a part of that for a year's subscription
to
<br>> a serious magazine. The numbers reflect the dollars. Television programs
get
<br>> bumped if they draw only millions of viewers. But cultural magazines
partake
<br>> of another world.
<br>>
<br>> A basic category in the National Magazine Awards is for periodicals
with
<br>> circulation "under 200,000." The term "under" should be emphasized.
Many
<br>> serious periodicals have circulations under 25,000. I used to write
for a
<br>> magazine whose circulation was 1,200. We joked that an American city
of
<br>> 200,000 people might have one subscriber; Chicago's readers could
gather for
<br>> a meal.
<br>>
<br>> Yet small (if not beautiful) may be important. Small magazines play
big
<br>> roles. Their impact cannot be measured in numbers. No one would calculate
<br>> the significance of the 1930s Partisan Review by its circulation
figures;
<br>> the same could be said of earlier journals like the Lively Arts or
the
<br>> Masses. Such magazines are passed around; they are commented upon.
They
<br>> serve as places for authors to try out ideas and for readers to find
new
<br>> writers. Invisible on the surface, the small journals are the intellectual
<br>> arteries of the body politic.
<br>>
<br>> Enter Lingua Franca. In 1990 a former professor of French literature
at
<br>> Yale, Jeffrey Kittay, had the inspired idea to put out a "review
of academic
<br>> life." The academic establishment supports, of course, many professional
<br>> magazines and one plump weekly newspaper, the Chronicle of Higher
Education,
<br>> directed mainly to administrators. Kittay realized these periodicals
omitted
<br>> the snap and crackle of academic life: the gossip, the lawsuits,
the
<br>> academic stars and their critics, the trends and counter-trends.
He sought
<br>> to publish a smart and brash journal that would capture the campus
sizzle.
<br>>
<br>> In "Quick Studies," Alexander Star, the editor of Lingua Franca for
six of
<br>> its 11 years, has assembled a representative sampling for the millions
of
<br>> Americans who never subscribed or saw a copy, since the journal never
broke
<br>> the 15,000 circulation barrier. He notes in his introduction that
the time
<br>> was ripe for an irreverent academic journal. Campuses were riven
by
<br>> arguments about the "cultural wars," political correctness, speech
codes,
<br>> multiculturalism, affirmative action, postmodernism and the like.
<br>>
<br>> Lingua Franca came out fighting with well-written forays that frequently
<br>> stepped on toes or, at least, raised eyebrows, most famously with
the
<br>> brilliant hoax by Alan Sokal, a New York University physicist. When
the
<br>> opaque pretentiousness of humanist academics irritated the straight-shooting
<br>> Sokal, he submitted to a cutting-edge cultural studies journal an
article of
<br>> patent nonsense, dense but filled with fashionable references and
phrases.
<br>> Social Text, and its theoretical bigwigs, took the bait and published
the
<br>> piece--titled "Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative
<br>> Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity"--only to be stunned by the next
issue of
<br>> Lingua Franca, in which Sokal confessed he had hoodwinked the editors.
<br>>
<br>> The Sokal brouhaha brought to the fore disputes about recent turns
in
<br>> humanist disciplines, mainly the rise of postmodernism and cultural
studies,
<br>> to which Star devotes the first section of this collection. He includes
the
<br>> pathetic response by the editors of Social Text, as well as another
<br>> confession, of an "ex-literary critic" who admits that the arid prose
and
<br>> rote politics served up by literary theorists (including himself)
killed his
<br>> love of literature.
<br>>
<br>> Several of the pieces review the jargon of the new academics. To
be sure,
<br>> the phenomenon of English professors who cannot write English is
not new,
<br>> but it has been elevated into a militant program by cultural studies
<br>> exponents. Its leading figures often appeal to German philosophy
to justify
<br>> their inability to link subject, verb and object; they maintain that
the
<br>> language of humanism must be ungainly to be deep. Lucidity equals
<br>> superficiality.
<br>>
<br>> Star includes an angry letter by Judith Butler, a UC Berkeley professor
of
<br>> rhetoric, who had been awarded first prize in a "worst writing "
contest.
<br>> Butler accuses Lingua Franca of cheap and tawdry journalism. Jim
Miller, a
<br>> New School dean, explores the issues in an essay that is almost too
<br>> magnanimous, "Is Bad Writing Necessary?" The question can be answered
<br>> simply: No. But this is not to say good writing must be simple-minded.
<br>>
<br>> Lingua Franca ranged far and wide; it took up everything from the
troubled
<br>> relationship between Milan Kundera and his translators to academics
as court
<br>> witnesses and the mysterious murder of a University of Chicago professor.
<br>> For its readers, every issue offered goodies: news about books and
academic
<br>> life, often featuring a central profile.
<br>>
<br>> Star signals a long essay on Jane Gallop as a Lingua Franca model.
Gallop, a
<br>> feminist professor, was accused of sexual harassment by several female
<br>> students. Like the other piece in this collection on sexual harassment,
the
<br>> article borders on the surreal. Gallop's decision not to write a
letter of
<br>> recommendation caused a student to lodge a complaint of harassment.
In the
<br>> lingo of "sexual harassment," Gallop's refusal demonstrated an intolerable
<br>> "power differential." The university seriously investigated the charge,
<br>> although it was finally dismissed.
<br>>
<br>> Though Lingua Franca's profiles were frequently entertaining, and
sometimes
<br>> illuminating, Star may have inadvertently played into the hands of
critics
<br>> who called the journal a People magazine for professors. Often numbingly
<br>> detailed, the profiles succeeded each other even as the ideas receded.
One
<br>> learns, for instance, that Gallop touched the chair of a student
with a bare
<br>> foot but nothing of her intellectual contribution, except that she
was a
<br>> "famous" feminist scholar.
<br>>
<br>> Profiles like these begin to feed off the American obsession with
fame. We
<br>> revel in details about the famous, the almost famous or the wannabes,
but
<br>> what are the issues? To be sure, Lingua Franca ran challenging pieces,
for
<br>> instance an essay on the highly regarded literary critic Paul de
Man who hid
<br>> his anti-Semitic past. Yet such pieces became scarcer, and it is
perhaps
<br>> indicative that Star leaves that article out of this collection.
<br>>
<br>> What killed Lingua Franca? Several explanations might be offered.
For
<br>> academics, the magazine lacked status. To be published in it brought
no
<br>> credit inasmuch as it was regarded as lowly journalism. To be covered
by it
<br>> was a dubious honor, because you could be not only celebrated but
<br>> besmirched.
<br>>
<br>> The journal was passed along but few professors wanted to be caught
with
<br>> their name on the subscription label. Lingua Franca existed like
Playboy
<br>> among the Boy Scouts, well-circulated and thumbed but rarely purchased.
<br>> Moreover, probably as a response to Lingua Franca, the Chronicle
of Higher
<br>> Education added more cultural and intellectual coverage, as did the
New York
<br>> Times.
<br>>
<br>> Finally, Lingua Franca exposed the open secret about small journals
of
<br>> culture and opinion in contemporary America. For all their repute,
with one
<br>> or two exceptions, they do not make a cent.
<br>>
<br>> The New Republics, Harper's, the Nations, and, of course, the Lingua
Francas
<br>> require dedicated souls with deep pockets to pay their bills. After
11
<br>> years, a backer of Lingua Franca decided enough was enough and pulled
out.
<br>> Nearly 280 million Americans did not notice, but some of us mourned
its
<br>> demise.
<br>>
<br>> _______________________________________________
<br>> Discussion mailing list
<br>> Discussion@lists.cstgroup.org
<br>> <a href="http://lists.cstgroup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussion">http://lists.cstgroup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussion</a>
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