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ergun
Gonul Pultar wrote:
> Asagidaki mesaji okuduktan sonra, basinda Wellstone'un ölümüyle ilgili
> bir sürü habere rastladim.
> Benim merak ettigim ise, acaba Türk Noriega'larin akibeti ne olacak?
>
> tetragon wrote:
> >
> > Like we have seen this show before / it never ends
> > ergun çagatay
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Was Paul Wellstone Murdered?
> > > > >
> > > > > by Michael I. Niman, AlterNet
> > > > > October 28, 2002
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul Wellstone was the only progressive in the U.S.
> > > > > Senate. Mother Jones
> > > > > magazine once described him as, "The first 1960s
> > > > > radical elected to the U.S.
> > > > > senate." He was also the last. Since defeating
> > > > > incumbent Republican Rudy
> > > > > Boschowitz 12 years ago in a grassroots upset,
> > > > > Wellstone emerged as the
> > > > > strongest, most persistent, most articulate and most
> > > > > vocal Senate opponent
> > > > > of the Bush administration.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a senate that is one heartbeat away from
> > > > > Republican control, Wellstone
> > > > > was more than just another Democrat. He was often
> > > > > the lone voice standing
> > > > > firm against the status-quo policies of both the
> > > > > Democrats and the
> > > > > Republicans. As such, he earned the special ire of
> > > > > the Bush administration
> > > > > and the Republican Party, who made Wellstone's
> > > > > defeat that party's number
> > > > > one priority this year.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Various White House figures made numerous recent
> > > > > campaign stops in Minnesota
> > > > > to stump for the ailing campaign of Wellstone's
> > > > > Republican opponent, Norm
> > > > > Coleman. Despite being outspent and outgunned,
> > > > > however, polls show that
> > > > > Wellstone's popularity surged after he voted to
> > > > > oppose the Senate resolution
> > > > > authorizing George Bush to wage war in Iraq. He was
> > > > > pulling ahead of Coleman
> > > > > and moving toward a victory that would both be an
> > > > > embarrassment to the Bush
> > > > > administration and to Democratic Quislings such as
> > > > > Hillary Clinton who voted
> > > > > to support "the president."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Then he died.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Wellstone now joins the ranks of other American
> > > > > politicians who died in
> > > > > small plane crashes. Another recent victim was
> > > > > Missouri's former Democratic
> > > > > governor, Mel Carnahan, who lost his life in 2000,
> > > > > three weeks before
> > > > > Election Day, during his Senatorial race against
> > > > > John Ashcroft. Carnahan
> > > > > went on to become the first dead man to win a
> > > > > Senatorial race, humiliating
> > > > > and defeating the unpopular Ashcroft posthumously.
> > > > > Ashcroft, despite his
> > > > > unpopularity, went on to be appointed Attorney
> > > > > General by George W. Bush.
> > > > > Investigators determined that Carnahan's plane went
> > > > > down due to "poor
> > > > > visibility."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Carnahan was the second Missouri politician to die
> > > > > in a small plane crash.
> > > > > The first was Democratic Representative Jerry
> > > > > Litton, whose plane crashed
> > > > > the night he won the Democratic nomination for
> > > > > senate in 1976. His
> > > > > Republican opponent ultimately captured the seat
> > > > > from his successor in
> > > > > November.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > While an article in the New York Times on Saturday
> > > > > pointed out the danger
> > > > > politicians face due to their heavy air travel
> > > > > schedules, the death of a
> > > > > senator or member of Congress is still relatively
> > > > > rare, with only one other
> > > > > sitting U.S. Senator, liberal Republican John Heinz,
> > > > > dying in a plane crash
> > > > > since World War II. Heinz, who entered office as an
> > > > > outspoken opponent of
> > > > > the Vietnam War, later emerged as a strong proponent
> > > > > of health care, social
> > > > > services, public transportation and the environment.
> > > > > He also urged
> > > > > reconciliation with Cuba. He died when the landing
> > > > > gear on his small plane
> > > > > failed to function, and a helicopter dispatched to
> > > > > survey the problem
> > > > > crashed into his plane.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One former senator, John Tower, also died in a small
> > > > > plane crash. Tower was
> > > > > best known as the chair of the Tower Commission,
> > > > > which investigated the
> > > > > Reagan/Bush era Iran/Contra scandal.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Another member of a prominent government commission
> > > > > who died in a small
> > > > > plane crash was former Democratic representative and
> > > > > House Majority Leader
> > > > > Hale Boggs. Boggs was best known as one of the seven
> > > > > members of the Warren
> > > > > Commission, which investigated the assassination of
> > > > > President John F.
> > > > > Kennedy. The commission found that Lee Harvey Oswald
> > > > > was acting alone when
> > > > > he killed the president. Boggs, it turns out, had
> > > > > "strong doubts" that
> > > > > Oswald acted alone, but went along with the
> > > > > commission findings. Later, in
> > > > > 1971 and 1972, he went public with his doubts. He
> > > > > was presumed dead after
> > > > > the small plane carrying him and Democratic
> > > > > Representative Nicholas Begich
> > > > > disappeared in 1972.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Texas Democratic Representative Mickey Leland also
> > > > > died in a plane crash. In
> > > > > his case, the six-term member of Congress and
> > > > > outspoken advocate of
> > > > > sanctions against the apartheid government of South
> > > > > Africa, died while
> > > > > traveling in Ethiopia. Another American politician
> > > > > to die overseas in a
> > > > > plane crash was the Clinton administration's
> > > > > Commerce Secretary, Ronald
> > > > > Brown, whose plane went down in the Balkans.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone familiar with my work knows that I'm
> > > > > certainly not a conspiracy
> > > > > theorist. But to be honest, I know I wasn't alone in
> > > > > my initial reaction at
> > > > > this week's horrible and tragic news: that being my
> > > > > surprise that Wellstone
> > > > > had lived this long. Perhaps it's just my anger and
> > > > > frustration at losing
> > > > > one of the few reputable politicians in Washington,
> > > > > but I also felt shame.
> > > > > Shame for not writing in my column, months ago, that
> > > > > I felt that Paul
> > > > > Wellstone's life, more so than any other politician
> > > > > in Washington, was in
> > > > > danger. I felt that such speculation was
> > > > > unprofessional and would ultimately
> > > > > undermine my credibility. In the end, my own
> > > > > self-interest triumphed, and I
> > > > > never put my concerns into print. Neither did any
> > > > > other mainstream
> > > > > journalist, though I know of many who shared my
> > > > > concern.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When I heard Wellstone's plane went down, I
> > > > > immediately thought of
> > > > > Panamanian General Omar Torrijos, who in 1981
> > > > > thumbed his nose at the
> > > > > Reagan/Bush administration and threatened to destroy
> > > > > the Panama Canal in the
> > > > > event of a U.S. invasion. Torrijos died shortly
> > > > > thereafter when the
> > > > > instruments in his plane failed to function upon
> > > > > takeoff. Panamanians
> > > > > speculated that the U.S. was involved in the death
> > > > > of the popular dictator,
> > > > > who was replaced by a U.S. intelligence operative,
> > > > > Manuel Noreiga, who
> > > > > previously worked with George Bush Senior.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no indication today that Wellstone's death
> > > > > was the result of foul
> > > > > play. What we do know, however, is that Wellstone
> > > > > emerged as the most
> > > > > visible obstacle standing in the way of a draconian
> > > > > political agenda by an
> > > > > unelected government. And now he is conveniently
> > > > > gone. For our government to
> > > > > maintain its credibility at this time, we need an
> > > > > open and accountable
> > > > > independent investigation involving international
> > > > > participation into the
> > > > > death of Paul Wellstone. Hopefully we will find out,
> > > > > beyond any shadow of a
> > > > > doubt, that this was indeed an untimely accident.
> > > > > For the sake of our
> > > > > country, we need to know this.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr. Michael I. Niman teaches journalism and media
> > > > > studies at Buffalo State College.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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<p>Gonul Pultar wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Asagidaki mesaji okuduktan sonra, basinda Wellstone'un
ölümüyle ilgili
<br>bir sürü habere rastladim.
<br>Benim merak ettigim ise, acaba Türk Noriega'larin akibeti ne olacak?
<p>tetragon wrote:
<br>>
<br>> Like we have seen this show before / it never ends
<br>> ergun çagatay
<br>>
<br>> >
<br>> >
<br>> > > > Was Paul Wellstone Murdered?
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > by Michael I. Niman, AlterNet
<br>> > > > October 28, 2002
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Paul Wellstone was the only progressive in the U.S.
<br>> > > > Senate. Mother Jones
<br>> > > > magazine once described him as, "The first 1960s
<br>> > > > radical elected to the U.S.
<br>> > > > senate." He was also the last. Since defeating
<br>> > > > incumbent Republican Rudy
<br>> > > > Boschowitz 12 years ago in a grassroots upset,
<br>> > > > Wellstone emerged as the
<br>> > > > strongest, most persistent, most articulate and most
<br>> > > > vocal Senate opponent
<br>> > > > of the Bush administration.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > In a senate that is one heartbeat away from
<br>> > > > Republican control, Wellstone
<br>> > > > was more than just another Democrat. He was often
<br>> > > > the lone voice standing
<br>> > > > firm against the status-quo policies of both the
<br>> > > > Democrats and the
<br>> > > > Republicans. As such, he earned the special ire of
<br>> > > > the Bush administration
<br>> > > > and the Republican Party, who made Wellstone's
<br>> > > > defeat that party's number
<br>> > > > one priority this year.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Various White House figures made numerous recent
<br>> > > > campaign stops in Minnesota
<br>> > > > to stump for the ailing campaign of Wellstone's
<br>> > > > Republican opponent, Norm
<br>> > > > Coleman. Despite being outspent and outgunned,
<br>> > > > however, polls show that
<br>> > > > Wellstone's popularity surged after he voted to
<br>> > > > oppose the Senate resolution
<br>> > > > authorizing George Bush to wage war in Iraq. He was
<br>> > > > pulling ahead of Coleman
<br>> > > > and moving toward a victory that would both be an
<br>> > > > embarrassment to the Bush
<br>> > > > administration and to Democratic Quislings such as
<br>> > > > Hillary Clinton who voted
<br>> > > > to support "the president."
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Then he died.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Wellstone now joins the ranks of other American
<br>> > > > politicians who died in
<br>> > > > small plane crashes. Another recent victim was
<br>> > > > Missouri's former Democratic
<br>> > > > governor, Mel Carnahan, who lost his life in 2000,
<br>> > > > three weeks before
<br>> > > > Election Day, during his Senatorial race against
<br>> > > > John Ashcroft. Carnahan
<br>> > > > went on to become the first dead man to win a
<br>> > > > Senatorial race, humiliating
<br>> > > > and defeating the unpopular Ashcroft posthumously.
<br>> > > > Ashcroft, despite his
<br>> > > > unpopularity, went on to be appointed Attorney
<br>> > > > General by George W. Bush.
<br>> > > > Investigators determined that Carnahan's plane went
<br>> > > > down due to "poor
<br>> > > > visibility."
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Carnahan was the second Missouri politician to die
<br>> > > > in a small plane crash.
<br>> > > > The first was Democratic Representative Jerry
<br>> > > > Litton, whose plane crashed
<br>> > > > the night he won the Democratic nomination for
<br>> > > > senate in 1976. His
<br>> > > > Republican opponent ultimately captured the seat
<br>> > > > from his successor in
<br>> > > > November.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > While an article in the New York Times on Saturday
<br>> > > > pointed out the danger
<br>> > > > politicians face due to their heavy air travel
<br>> > > > schedules, the death of a
<br>> > > > senator or member of Congress is still relatively
<br>> > > > rare, with only one other
<br>> > > > sitting U.S. Senator, liberal Republican John Heinz,
<br>> > > > dying in a plane crash
<br>> > > > since World War II. Heinz, who entered office as an
<br>> > > > outspoken opponent of
<br>> > > > the Vietnam War, later emerged as a strong proponent
<br>> > > > of health care, social
<br>> > > > services, public transportation and the environment.
<br>> > > > He also urged
<br>> > > > reconciliation with Cuba. He died when the landing
<br>> > > > gear on his small plane
<br>> > > > failed to function, and a helicopter dispatched to
<br>> > > > survey the problem
<br>> > > > crashed into his plane.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > One former senator, John Tower, also died in a small
<br>> > > > plane crash. Tower was
<br>> > > > best known as the chair of the Tower Commission,
<br>> > > > which investigated the
<br>> > > > Reagan/Bush era Iran/Contra scandal.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Another member of a prominent government commission
<br>> > > > who died in a small
<br>> > > > plane crash was former Democratic representative and
<br>> > > > House Majority Leader
<br>> > > > Hale Boggs. Boggs was best known as one of the seven
<br>> > > > members of the Warren
<br>> > > > Commission, which investigated the assassination of
<br>> > > > President John F.
<br>> > > > Kennedy. The commission found that Lee Harvey Oswald
<br>> > > > was acting alone when
<br>> > > > he killed the president. Boggs, it turns out, had
<br>> > > > "strong doubts" that
<br>> > > > Oswald acted alone, but went along with the
<br>> > > > commission findings. Later, in
<br>> > > > 1971 and 1972, he went public with his doubts. He
<br>> > > > was presumed dead after
<br>> > > > the small plane carrying him and Democratic
<br>> > > > Representative Nicholas Begich
<br>> > > > disappeared in 1972.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Texas Democratic Representative Mickey Leland also
<br>> > > > died in a plane crash. In
<br>> > > > his case, the six-term member of Congress and
<br>> > > > outspoken advocate of
<br>> > > > sanctions against the apartheid government of South
<br>> > > > Africa, died while
<br>> > > > traveling in Ethiopia. Another American politician
<br>> > > > to die overseas in a
<br>> > > > plane crash was the Clinton administration's
<br>> > > > Commerce Secretary, Ronald
<br>> > > > Brown, whose plane went down in the Balkans.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Anyone familiar with my work knows that I'm
<br>> > > > certainly not a conspiracy
<br>> > > > theorist. But to be honest, I know I wasn't alone in
<br>> > > > my initial reaction at
<br>> > > > this week's horrible and tragic news: that being my
<br>> > > > surprise that Wellstone
<br>> > > > had lived this long. Perhaps it's just my anger and
<br>> > > > frustration at losing
<br>> > > > one of the few reputable politicians in Washington,
<br>> > > > but I also felt shame.
<br>> > > > Shame for not writing in my column, months ago, that
<br>> > > > I felt that Paul
<br>> > > > Wellstone's life, more so than any other politician
<br>> > > > in Washington, was in
<br>> > > > danger. I felt that such speculation was
<br>> > > > unprofessional and would ultimately
<br>> > > > undermine my credibility. In the end, my own
<br>> > > > self-interest triumphed, and I
<br>> > > > never put my concerns into print. Neither did any
<br>> > > > other mainstream
<br>> > > > journalist, though I know of many who shared my
<br>> > > > concern.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > When I heard Wellstone's plane went down, I
<br>> > > > immediately thought of
<br>> > > > Panamanian General Omar Torrijos, who in 1981
<br>> > > > thumbed his nose at the
<br>> > > > Reagan/Bush administration and threatened to destroy
<br>> > > > the Panama Canal in the
<br>> > > > event of a U.S. invasion. Torrijos died shortly
<br>> > > > thereafter when the
<br>> > > > instruments in his plane failed to function upon
<br>> > > > takeoff. Panamanians
<br>> > > > speculated that the U.S. was involved in the death
<br>> > > > of the popular dictator,
<br>> > > > who was replaced by a U.S. intelligence operative,
<br>> > > > Manuel Noreiga, who
<br>> > > > previously worked with George Bush Senior.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > There is no indication today that Wellstone's death
<br>> > > > was the result of foul
<br>> > > > play. What we do know, however, is that Wellstone
<br>> > > > emerged as the most
<br>> > > > visible obstacle standing in the way of a draconian
<br>> > > > political agenda by an
<br>> > > > unelected government. And now he is conveniently
<br>> > > > gone. For our government to
<br>> > > > maintain its credibility at this time, we need an
<br>> > > > open and accountable
<br>> > > > independent investigation involving international
<br>> > > > participation into the
<br>> > > > death of Paul Wellstone. Hopefully we will find out,
<br>> > > > beyond any shadow of a
<br>> > > > doubt, that this was indeed an untimely accident.
<br>> > > > For the sake of our
<br>> > > > country, we need to know this.
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > >
<br>> > > > Dr. Michael I. Niman teaches journalism and media
<br>> > > > studies at Buffalo State College.
<br>> > >
<br>> > >
<br>> > ></blockquote>
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